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		agnar
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Sudoku2 fron fingerarts on iPad/Iphone | 
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				Is there anyone of out thar that have experienve with Sudoku2 from fingerarts on the iPad/iPhone.
 
 
I have used it for a while.  While the user interface is quite nice, I find the expert-level some times too difficult.  Some of them are easilly solved using a two-string kite, a fish, sky-scraper or an xy-wing.  But others seems completely unsolvable.  As a test, I have ran several of them through SudoCue, to help find a solution, but it it surrenders!
 
 
Are there anyone of you having experience solving them without guessing?
 
 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | agnar wrote: | 	 		  
 
Sudoku2 from fingerarts
 
on the iPad/iPhone I have ran several of them through SudoCue, to help find a solution, but it surrenders
 
 
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perhaps you can post an example | 
			 
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		agnar
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Here is an example:
 
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. . 2|. . .|7 . .
 
. . 7|3 . .|. 1 4
 
. . .|. . 5|. . 8
 
-----+-----+-----
 
. . .|. . .|1 6 .
 
. . 1|. 7 .|3 . .
 
. . .|6 . .|. . 7
 
-----+-----+-----
 
1 . .|. . 4|8 . .
 
. 5 8|. . 6|2 . .
 
. 4 .|. 5 .|. . . | 	  
 
 
And here is SudoCue's solver log:
 
 
 
 
- Digit 4 is a hidden single for R8C8 in multiple houses
 
 - Digit 4 is a hidden single for R6C7 in multiple houses
 
 - Digit 7 is a hidden single for R3C4 in multiple houses
 
 - Digit 7 is a hidden single for R9C6 in multiple houses
 
 - Digit 7 is a hidden single for R7C8 in multiple houses
 
 - Digit 5 is a hidden single for R7C9 in multiple houses
 
 - Digit 7 is a hidden single for R8C1 in multiple houses
 
 - Last instance of digit 7 in R4C2
 
 - Digit 8 is a hidden single for R9C4 in multiple houses
 
 - Hidden single in box 3 for digit 2
 
 - Hidden single in row 9 for digit 1
 
 - Hidden single in box 9 for digit 6
 
 - Digit 6 is a hidden single for R1C9 in multiple houses
 
 - Hidden single in box 3 for digit 3
 
 - Digit 3 is a hidden single for R8C9 in multiple houses
 
 - Box 9 has one empty cell for the final digit 9
 
 - Digit 5 is a hidden single for R2C7 in multiple houses
 
 - Column 7 has one empty cell for the final digit 9
 
 - Digit 5 is a hidden single for R1C1 in multiple houses
 
 - Hidden single in box 8 for digit 3
 
 - Hidden single in box 8 for digit 2
 
 - Digit 2 is a hidden single for R9C1 in multiple houses
 
 - Row 9 has one empty cell for the final digit 3
 
 - Box 1 only has candidates for digit 4 in row 3
 
 - Solver surrenders
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: re: 7.3 | 
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				 	  | agnar wrote: | 	 		  
 
Here is an example:..2...7....73...14.....5..8......16...1.7.3.....6....71....48...58..62...4..5....
 
 
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thanksway too tough for me,
 
SuDoku Explainer rates it 7.3  | 
			 
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		agnar
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| The question is, is it really solvable. And if so, what's the trick? | 
			 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | agnar wrote: | 	 		  | The question is, is it really solvable. And if so, what's the trick? | 	  
 
the experts will say yes it is solvable
 
 
they'll use "forcing chains" or "forcing nets"
 
 
( Nicolas Juillerat's SuDoku Explainer can show you a solution-path ) | 
			 
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