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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject: Sudopedia | 
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				| For those who haven't tried to access Sudopedia lately, it's been down for several days and there doesn't seem to be any communication available to those hosting the website/server. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Danny,
 
 
That's too bad.
 
 
Maybe someone has a copy of the content and it can be put into Wikipedia?
 
 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject:  | 
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				if it had anything of value --
 
now is the time to catch it in the Google cache
 
(will soon vanish) | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Pat found a possible phone number, but it is invalid.
 
 
I found Ruud van der Werf on LinkedIn, and have sent a request to connect.
 
 
We shall see.
 
 
edit:  I found a list of six Sudoku forums that Ruud say he is a member of.  Four of those are dead.  Only this site (Daily Sudoku) and Sudoku Programmers are still running.
 
 
 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| He's also a member of EnjoySudoku ... the reincarnation of another defunct forum. Many of his entries are present, but he hasn't been active in a long time. | 
			 
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		peterj
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| There's a snapshot of the site in the Wayback Machine from April 09. All the links I tried seemed to work. Not sure how easy it is to re-construct from this copy.. | 
			 
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		JasonLion
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Ruud never claimed his old account on the New Sudoku Players Forum. | 
			 
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		Pat
 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Pat wrote: | 	 		  | http://sudoPedia.Org is back ! | 	  Pat,
 
 
That is good news.  Do you have any idea what happened?
 
 
I see that it is still hosted at Ruud's mostly dead site, and they are still not asking for donations.
 
 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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sorry, no idea what happened
 
and yes, SuDoCue.Net has some problem
 
= their Forum is gone   | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Pat,
 
 
As we speak, I am making a copy of Sudopedia.  At 1h45m, 160 MB, and counting.  I am about to leave town for three days.  We will see what I have when I get back on Wednesday morning.
 
 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | keith wrote: | 	 		  
 
I am making a copy of Sudopedia
 
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i assume you're recursively following all links
 
 
i.e. including all versions of history | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Pat wrote: | 	 		   	  | keith wrote: | 	 		  
 
I am making a copy of Sudopedia
 
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i assume you're recursively following all links
 
 
i.e. including all versions of history | 	  
 
Pat,
 
 
I am only dimly aware of what I did.  I used HTTrack to mirror the Sudopedia site on to my hard drive.  It took a couple of days, but it did complete.  I now have a copy that seems to work fine.  It is about 1.33 GB.  I plan to put it on a thumb drive and / or DVD for safekeeping.
 
 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | keith wrote: | 	 		  I used HTTrack to mirror the Sudopedia site on to my hard drive.
 
I now have a copy that seems to work fine.
 
It is about 1.33 GB. | 	  
 
say you visit sudopedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Subset- you could save an HTML snapshot
 - or (better) click the "edit" link
 
and save the contents of the edit-box (in wikiMedia language) - if you used a crawler which followed all links
 
then you may have saved both ??  there's also a "history" link --
 
so, if you followed all links, you also got 11 versions (full history) of the article.
 
(they save a separate version even if only 1 character was changed.)
 
this explains the huge size.
 
 
and if you followed the "discussion" link,
 
then you also got the associated discussion ( sudopedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hidden_Subset ) etc
 
 
 
for each article (and for each associated discussion)
 
you have (presumably) 2 copies of each historical version --
 
the 2nd copy is the one obtained via the "edit" link,
 
where the textarea (edit-box) contains the source (in wikiMedia language). | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Pat,
 
 
I appear to have EVERYTHING.  I can look at the edit page, I can see eleven versions of the history.
 
 
Even better, I can update my mirror copy by running the software again.  So, I have a fully functioning copy of Wikipedia on my hard drive.
 
 
EXCEPT:  I cannot copy it to a DVD or to a flash drive.  Windows copy fails, possibly because of "illegal" characters in file names.  I suppose I could try to use the same software to mirror my copy to another drive.
 
 
My advice?  Make your own mirror.  I used WinHT.  It ran for a few days, and I have a very high speed internet connection.  (Actually, the software limits itself so as to not bog down your connection or the site being copied.  Pretty cool stuff.)
 
 
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