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		Ema Nymton
 
 
  Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 89
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Minimal Number Of Givens ? | 
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Is there a minimal number of givens at which point it becomes impossible to solve a standard sudoku puzzle?
 
 
From my personal experience, I have been able to solve a puzzle with 23 givens.
 
 
~@:o?
 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The minimum number of clues is 17.  No one has proved this, but no one has found a valid (unique solution) Sudoku with 16 clues.
 
 
Surprisingly, these puzzles tend not to be very difficult.  (I read that somewhere.)  There is a collection here:
 
 
http://people.csse.uwa.edu.au/gordon/sudokumin.php
 
 
Here is one of them:
 
 
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+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . . . | . . . | . 1 . |
 
| 4 . . | . . . | . . . |
 
| . 2 . | . . . | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . . . | . 5 . | 4 . 7 |
 
| . . 8 | . . . | 3 . . |
 
| . . 1 | . 9 . | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| 3 . . | 4 . . | 2 . . |
 
| . 5 . | 1 . . | . . . |
 
| . . . | 8 . 6 | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
Here is another:
 
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+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . . . | . . . | . 1 . |
 
| 4 . . | . . . | . . . |
 
| . 2 . | . . . | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . . . | . 5 . | 6 . 4 |
 
| . . 8 | . . . | 3 . . |
 
| . . 1 | . 9 . | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| 3 . . | 4 . . | 2 . . |
 
| . 5 . | 1 . . | . . . |
 
| . . . | 8 . 7 | . . . |
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
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