dailysudoku.com Forum Index dailysudoku.com
Discussion of Daily Sudoku puzzles
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Danny 3

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    dailysudoku.com Forum Index -> Other puzzles
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:13 pm    Post subject: Danny 3 Reply with quote

Hopefully another absorbing puzzle:

Code:

+-----------------------+
 | . 4 . | 2 . 6 | . . 9 |
 | 1 6 . | . 9 7 | . . . |
 | . . . | . 1 4 | . . 7 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 5 . . | . . . | . . . |
 | . 3 4 | . 5 . | . . . |
 | 9 . 1 | . . 3 | 5 . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | . . 9 | 6 . . |
 | 3 . 5 | . . . | . 2 . |
 | . 9 2 | . . . | . . 4 |
 +-----------------------+ 
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After basics

Code:

 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  8      4      7      |  2      3      6      |  1      5      9      |
 |  1      6      3      |  5      9      7      |  248    48     28     |
 |  2      5      9      |  8      1      4      |  3      6      7      |
 |-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
 |  5      28     6      |  1479   478    128    |  2478   14789  3      |
 |  7      3      4      |  169    5      128    |  28     189    1268   |
 |  9      28     1      |  467    4678   3      |  5      478    268    |
 |-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
 |  4      1      8      |  37     2      9      |  6      37     5      |
 |  3      7      5      |  46     46     18     |  9      2      18     |
 |  6      9      2      |  13     78     5      |  78     13     4      |
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
immpy



Joined: 06 May 2017
Posts: 571

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on how one travels, there are 2 String Kites, a Finned X-Wing, possibly a W-Wing here. Nice puzzle.

cheers...immp
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:26 pm    Post subject: ALS solution Reply with quote

A rather lovely solution if you like doing the spatial stuff.

ALS XZ

A = {1,2,4,6,7,8} (Pink)
B = {1,2,6,8} (Green)

Restricted Common x = 6 in row 6
Common Candidate z = 1 (Blue) so r8c6<>1 because it can see all the 1's in both A and B.





Last edited by Mogulmeister on Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:43 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finding two ALS that works can be time consuming but it gets better with practice. The strong link between the two <18> act as a focus as you try and construct two ALS that share enough candidates. Remember any ALS you construct must have its member cells in the same row, column or box.

You then look for a restricted common which is a number shared by both sets but will only end up in one or the other. This put me off for a while because usually a restricted common (in this case 6) only appears once in each set. I then realised that just because there are two sixes in set A at r6c45 the basic idea is unchanged - the 6 is either in A or B.

Constructing the ALS is always interesting and you have to remember the rules. If there are N squares then there must be N+1 candidates in those squares. So A has 5 squares and so 6 candidates. Set B has 3 squares and so 4 candidates.

I had got to the stage where I had 4 squares in A but needed a 5th and r6c4 was left but the extra 6 threw me for a while.


Last edited by Mogulmeister on Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:14 am; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you prefer chains, there is an ANP (almost naked pair) solve too giving the same result r8c6 <>1.

Last edited by Mogulmeister on Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:26 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ANP solve is often worth looking at. In this case, if you look again at the green cells r2c9 and r6c9. Now these two cells will either make a <28> naked pair (NP) or the 6 in r6c9 will prevent that.

So let's play it out. Both scenarios.


(1) ANP (6=28)r26c9-(8=1)r8c9-(1)r8c6 so r8c6<>1 (If NP True)

The above creates a naked pair that knocks out the 8 in r8c9 making it 1. This then knocks out the 1 in r8c6.

(2)ANP (28=6)r26c9-(6=478)r6c4|r46c5-(8=12)r45c6-(1)r8c6; r8c6<>1(IF NP False)

The above 6 in r6c9 knocks out the 6's in r6c45. This allows a triple to form <478> in r6c4, r46c5.

This kills the 8's in r45c6 which creates another NP <12> which ALSO knocks out the 1 in r8c6.


Last edited by Mogulmeister on Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:27 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I showed the two sides of the ANP in this way to mirror the analysis of something that takes seconds by inspection but far longer to write down !

For more completeness there is, as always, a chain that covers it all.

ANP (28=6)r26c9-(6=478)r6c4|r46c5-(8=12)r45c6-(1=8)r8c6-(8)r8c9; r8c9<>8 and r8c6<>1


Last edited by Mogulmeister on Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:18 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mogulmeister



Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1151

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which leads to the final observation. You can take advantage of the links above to prove a contradiction on 1.

Start by plugging 1 into r8c6. We can use our earlier chain but in reverse.

This creates a loop which insists on eliminating that same 1 in r8c6. This is a contradiction and the 1 can be removed.

(8=1)r8c6-(1=8)r8c9-(28=6)r26c9-(6=478)r6c4|r46c5-(8=12)r45c6-(1=8)r8c6; r8c6<> 1
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    dailysudoku.com Forum Index -> Other puzzles All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group