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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Set NNP Puzzle 45 | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		   +-----------------------+
 
 | 1 . . | . . . | . . . |
 
 | . . 4 | . 2 . | 1 5 6 |
 
 | . 6 9 | . . . | . . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . . . | . 3 . | . 1 . |
 
 | . 3 . | 2 7 4 | 6 8 . |
 
 | . . . | . 1 8 | 3 . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . 9 . | . 5 2 | . . 7 |
 
 | . 1 . | 7 4 . | . 6 . |
 
 | . 7 . | . . . | 4 . . |
 
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===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== New Ratings
 
 
Can be solved using steps from ...
 
 
Basics: Naked/Hidden Single, Naked Pair/Triple, Locked Candidate 1/2
 
 
Basics+: Naked Quad, Hidden Pair/Triple/Quad
 
 
VH: BUG+1, UR Type 1, X-Wing, XY-Wing, XYZ-Wing
 
 
VH+: 2-String Kite, Empty Rectangle, Remote Pair, Skyscraper, Colors, UR Type 2
 
 
Advanced: finned/Sashimi X-Wing, Multiple Colors, Swordfish, M-Wing, W-Wing, XY-Chain
 
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		  .------------------------.------------------------.------------------------.
 
| 1       25      2357   | 345     6       57     | 279     479     8      |
 
| 37      8       4      | 39      2       79     | 1       5       6      |
 
| 257     6       9      | 45      8       1      | 27      47      3      |
 
:------------------------+------------------------+------------------------:
 
| 256789  245     2578   | 569     3       59     | 579     1       24     |
 
| 59      3       1      | 2       7       4      | 6       8       59     |
 
| 25679   245     257    | 569     1       8      | 3       79      24     |
 
:------------------------+------------------------+------------------------:
 
| 4       9       6      | 1       5       2      | 8       3       7      |
 
| 28      1       28     | 7       4       3      | 59      6       59     |
 
| 35      7       35     | 8       9       6      | 4       2       1      |
 
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UR {2,4}
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I used an assortment of moves including XY-Wings, W-Wing and ER before finishing off with a Type 2 UR on 24. However, I think the UR was there all along so some of my previous moves were probably not necessary. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The UR alone does not solve it.
 
 
The most effective way to look at the UR is that <5> in C2 must be in B4.  That solves R1C2 and R5C1.
 
 
The XY-wing 45-7 is in R13.
 
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I used the Type 2 UR 24 plus a w-wing with what I believe is termed a "grouped link". The w-wing is shown in the following code which results after taking the eliminations due to the Type 2 UR24.
 
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 | 1      2      357    | 345    6      W57    | 79     479    8      |
 
 | 37     8      4      | 39     2      79     | 1      5      6      |
 
 | W57    6      9      | 45     8      1      | 2      47     3      |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 26789  45     278    | 569    3      59     | 579    1      24     |
 
 | 59     3      1      | 2      7      4      | 6      8      59     |
 
 | 2679   45     27     | 569    1      8      | 3      79     24     |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 4      9      6      | 1      5      2      | 8      3      7      |
 
 | 28     1      28     | 7      4      3      | 59     6      59     |
 
 | 35     7      35     | 8      9      6      | 4      2      1      |
 
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The w-wing57 is in r1c6 & r3c1(marked with a W) and the "grouped link on <7>"  is in box3. A <7> will be placed in either r1 or r3 within box3 thereby forcing one of the w-wing pincers to be a <5>, which deletes <5> from r1c3 to complete the puzzle.
 
 
Is this form of a strong link termed a "grouped link"?
 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Ted,
 
 
Your elimination certainly is correct.  The W-wing logic is, in this case, <7> in either W-cell forces <5> in the other.  I think "grouped link" is an adequately descriptive name.  (I would know what to look for.)
 
 
By the way, you have missed that the UR (also) takes out <5> in R5C1.
 
 
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